25 What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

    A great line from “There’s Something About Mary” and it also applies to the 3-0 Packers.

Brett Favre is tied with Dan Marino at 420 career td passes. It’s not real surprising that he’s here, about to break this record. It seems, however, that stats don’t really matter as much with quarterbacks. To me, Favre’s legacy will be his consecutive start streak. That’s the one the blows you away. I once asked Cal Ripken to compare his streak to Favre’s. Cal said his run was special, but Favre’s was in a different category. Football is just so much more physical than baseball.

Whenever Favre retires, he will be put in that upper echelon of QB’s, maybe one notch below Montana and Elway. If he somehow managed to score another Super Bowl ring before he retires, then he jumps into that super-elite level. This brings us back, as always, to the one stat that defines quarterbacks, rings. Was Joe Namath great or was he great for one special season? Was Troy Aikman great or was he a strong part of a dominant Cowboys run where he got three rings? It’s the ultimate varible for quarterbacks. Maybe we put too much stock in Super Bowl titles, maybe not…but that is the way it is and likely how it will always be.



22 Responses

  1. Brett is a warrior, and as you know warrior don’t just go away they have to be killed off. Brett is where he’ s suppose to be, on the battle field with the other warriors. Love him or hate him the warrior lives on, and probably beyond this season.

  2. Brett Favre is still here, because he’s immortal. He will never go down, he will never die. If he decides to play for another 500 years, I’m pretty sure he’ll get another ring within that time period. He’s just that good.

  3. Only 25 blog entries to get Brett Favre in there, Dan-o…who had the over/under on that number?? I thought it would happen a lot sooner myself. 😉

    The Packers have been a pleasant surprise this year, but I’m not sold yet. It was a VERY impressive win against the Chargers, but I’d like to see them do it against the Bears, Cowboys or other dominant AFC teams. Favre is having a great year so far, no doubt about that, though. We’ll see if it all holds together.


  4. If there’s one thing quarterbacks have in common it’s that each one is unique. There’s not a formula that can produce the perfect QB: size+strength+intellect=___________. Each one has indefinable characteristics and style combined with the time they play in that produces success. I love to see Farve’s grizzled face and determined eyes when’s he’s standing on the sidelines, chomping at the bit to get back on the field. That’s what we’ll miss when he fades away.

  5. You are absolutely right on two points. Brett’s legacy will most definitely be his consecutive game streak. And, too much emphasis is placed on Superbowl rings. But you are wrong to suggest that Favre is “one notch below Montana and Elway” because he does not have enough rings. He will be the NFL touchdown pass leader and its ironman, probably for decades to come. The intangibles associated with his presence in the huddle every single game are immeasurable. Though a die-hard Patriot fan, I am not convinced that Brady, despite the rings, is capable of being as good as Farve, for as long.

  6. Brett Favre may have only won 1 Super Bowl, but when he shined he shined so brightly that he was league MVP for 3 years in a row.

    Brett Favre didn’t need a big market to become a household name. He didn’t need more than one ring.

    He’s not going to get any more rings. Right now he’s winning, and he’s playing well. I say let’s enjoy it.

    Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers is getting to fill his scrapboook with “I was there” Brett Favre milestones.

    Will the Packers suffer the Dolphins’ fate in their search for the next Brett Favre?

  7. I’m happy for Brett. Of course, much credit has to be given to him…he’s the one that stood through it all. Bad seasons, a young gun breathing down his neck, some public outcry to replace him, and pundits saying he should hang it up. Brett says to all of us, “Maybe I DIDN’T stay too long at the fair”, and reminds people that savvy, determination, veteran experience, and skill sometimes can trump the “next big thing” syndrome so prevalent in sports, entertainment, and many times even corporate America.

  8. Brett Favre is awesome. It will be a sad day when he retires. We as fans, will continue to enjoy watching him while we still can.
    The real question Dan is: Where the Hell are you, and When are you coming back? ESPN Radio is pretty boring without you. If you don’t end up coming back to ESPN, then find another network damn it. Just get back on the air Please!!!

  9. Whenever I see his name on the back of his jersey, I still hear Ben Stiller in my head: “Brett Fav…re?”

  10. Couple things about the Packers.

    I love to watch Favre throw the ball. The motion he uses and how he flings his whole body into it. It is just the best looking unique throwing motion I’ve seen. I kinda equate it to Ken Griffey Jr.’s swing.

    2nd. I’ve become a Packer fan for the simple reason that their offense is starting 2 former Boise State Broncos. Daryn College is in his 2nd season at LG and rookie Korey Hall starting at FB (he was an outstanding college LB). I will say, it really changes the way you watch football when you focus on offensive line and lead blockers on every play. I suggest everyone try watching a game like that sometime… you will learn something about football.

  11. Come on Dan… selecting the Best Quarterback based on SB victories is assinine and lazy. The SB is a TEAM achievement and yes the QB plays a big part in that by scoring TD’s (eg Favre) or not screwing it up (That guy from the Ravens). Why is it that Starr’s name never enters the conversation? Because NFL Championships aren’t Super Bowls I guess. I am biased, I love Brett Favre but how can you not say he is THE best to PLAY the game. The raw emotion, the toughness, the excitement, added to the statistics (not just the attempts/completions/tds/ints) like come from behind victories 38, how many receivers he threw TD’s to… a lot and none in the HOF!!! I could go on and on… I am glad Brett Favre is “here”………maybe he will get “there” again if only to meet the requirement for Best QB……..

  12. one more thing… why is it that Montana gets praise for his SB victories yet no discussion on how Walsh and his West Coast offense was the real victor… in my mind Montana was a product of the system and Favre succeeded despite the system… early in Favre’s career it was Favre to Sharpe no matter where Sharpe was Because Favre didn’t even know the system…he just used his arm and scored any way he could. … of course now he knows the system and it shows!

  13. You said – “Whenever Favre retires, he will be put in that upper echelon of QB’s, maybe one notch below Montana and Elway. If he somehow managed to score another Super Bowl ring before he retires, then he jumps into that super-elite level.”

    Dan, Brett Favre is and will be the greatest QB that ever played the game, for many reason, even beyond his stats but not because of his number of Superbowl rings. Going to the Super-Bowl is a game of chance that can played out on any given Sunday. After all, how is it possible that Rex Grossman got there last year? He is to date the worse quarterback in the league. You’re statement was flawed. Give Brett Farve the credit and respect he is due.

  14. How can you two put Brett Farve above John Elway? He is John Elway! In every aspect of the game. Strong Arm, check. Amazing Ability, check. Able to make plays up on the run, check. No talent around him yet still able to win, check. The only real difference is that Elway retired too early and Farve has held on too long (Although this year would say otherwise). I think the list of great QB’s goes as follows; Elway, Farve, Montana, Brady, Manning, with both Brady and Manning moving up the list fast.

  15. I’m a Packer fan. A confession? When my beloved Pack lost to the Broncos in SB XXXII, I took consolation in the fact that Elway finally got his ring. So I do not say lightly that Favre is the best QB to ever play the game.

    One losing season in 16 years; more TD’s, completions and attempts than Marino; more wins than Elway; more MVP’s than Montana and Young are all clear evidence of his competitiveness and skill as a QB.

    More impressive is that Favre has done it on a team owned by a small town in Wisconsin that was just about left for dead in the early 90’s. After the 98 season, while his coach chased more money and fame elsewhere, Favre restructured his contract when the team was struggling financially. His winning ways helped the organization garner public support and raise cash in an issue of worthless stock.

    Brett Favre put the Green Bay Packers on his back and carried the organization for years – winning any way he could, surrounded with less than stellar talent, making mediocre coaches look good. As one local writer said, “He’s their meal ticket.”

    And now, in the twilight of his brilliant career, he has THE YOUNGEST TEAM IN THE NFL looking like they can beat all comers.

    You can take your SB rings. Brett Favre is a man among men. And those of us who have been priveledged enough to see him week in and week out know that there is no question, really.

    No one does it better.

  16. Just a thought, with all the talk in baseball about steroids and asterisks why do we hear nothing about Brett Favre and his addiction to pain killers. Did these in anyway help him in his consecutive start streak? How many times was he playing when he couldn’t feel the pain and is that the kind of role model we want to see. Farve was sorry for taking them and got help, that is commendable, but it wasn’t until after the season was done and his streak wasn’t in jeopardy.
    Just my two cents.

  17. If we’re going to talk pain killers, probably most of the NFL is/was on them at some point. You still have to want to go out there play after play and, we all know, plenty of guys just won’t do that.

    As a Packer fan, I obviously love watching him play every Sunday. Tell me this, how many teams right now would want him to be their QB, even at his age? The Bears with him would be scary or even the Ravens.

    In Favre We Trust…

  18. How many NFL players do you feel use painkillers? Probably 99.9%. Whats amazing is that Farve hasnt for so many years. I agree w/the previous list: Elway,Farve,Montana w/Manning and Brady coming on. Oh and by the way, On SAS’s radio show the other day(why I listened,I dont know) he said that Warren Moon should be considered better than Farve. We lose DP for SAS. Nice.

  19. People can complain about Brett Favre all they want, but I won’t be one of them. Brett Favre is who every NFL player should model their playing style after. It will be a sad day in football when he finally decides to hang it up.

  20. i thought he should have retired after his season two years ago. last year i admitted i was wrong. this year i admit i was REALLY wrong. i’m not really a fan… but his greatness is undeniable.

  21. I was born in Wisconsin, but grew up in Iowa, and therefore did not become a Packer fan until I reached college (in Missouri?!) in the early Nineties (thanks to a new college roommate from Green Bay, and much to my Dad’s delight). Lucky for me, I got on board just before the Majik Man was fell off and an unknown was taking over my (new?) woeful team. I sometimes think how lucky I was to see the wisdom of ancestors at just the right time to be able to fully enjoy one of the true great football PLAYERS in history. For I don’t think you can compare Favre with the other great quarterbacks in the modern history of the NFL. He is a throwback to a time when real men played for the love of the game. And when he leaves the game, I doubt I’ll ever see another player like him again in my lifetime. I’m gonna stop writing before it gets too misty in here…

  22. Very nice Packers information. I think Favre will be an immediate hall-of-famer.
    I hope to be in Green Bay for a game this fall. I am visiting from Peru.

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